[This interview was published about a month before Mrs Lee passed away - note the date.]
Sept 2010
Interviewer: Seth Mydans
NYT: You should be glad that you've gotten way past where most of us will get.
That is my trouble. So, when is the last leaf falling?
Do you feel like that, do you feel like the leaves are coming off?
Well,
yes. I mean I can feel the gradual decline of energy and vitality and I
mean generally every year when you know you are not on the same level
as last year. But that is life.
My mother used to say never get old.
Well, there you will try never to think yourself old. I mean I keep fit, I swim, I cycle.
And yoga, is that right? Meditation?
Yes.
Tell me about meditation?
Well,
I started it about two, three years ago when Ng Kok Song, the Chief
Investment Officer of the Government of Singapore Investment
Corporation, I knew he was doing meditation.
His wife had died but he
was completely serene.
So, I said, how do you achieve this? He said I
meditate everyday and so did my wife and when she was dying of cancer,
she was totally serene because she meditated everyday and he gave me a
video of her in her last few weeks completely composed completely
relaxed and she and him had been meditating for years.
Well, I said
to him, you teach me. He is a devout Christian. He was taught by a man
called Laurence Freeman, a Catholic. His guru was John Main a devout
Catholic. When I was in London, Ng Kok Song introduced me to Laurence
Freeman. In fact, he is coming to visit Singapore, and we will do a
meditation session. The problem is to keep the mind from running off
into all kinds of thoughts. It is most difficult to stay focused on the
mantra. The discipline is to have a mantra which you keep repeating in
your innermost heart, no need to voice it over and over again throughout
the whole period of meditation.
The mantra they recommended was a
religious one. Ma Ra Na Ta, four syllables. Come To Me Oh Lord Jesus. So
I said Okay, I am not a Catholic but I will try. He said you can take
any other mantra, Buddhist Om Mi Tuo Fo, and keep repeating it. To me Ma
Ran Na Ta is more soothing. So I used Ma Ra Na Ta.
You must be
disciplined. I find it helps me go to sleep after that. A certain
tranquility settles over you. The day's pressures and worries are pushed
out. Then there's less problem sleeping. I miss it sometimes when I am
tired, or have gone out to a dinner and had wine. Then I cannot
concentrate. Otherwise I stick to it ... a good meditator will do it for
half-an-hour. I do it for 20 minutes.